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Topic:  Shooting - Correcting Form with Elbows Pointing Out

Question from Star:
Hi,I coach a 7 to 11 year olds, and the court are stationary and can't be
adjusted. Most of our kids has the strength to put the ball in the basket,
but they shoot with their elbows out with a leaning forward pushing motion.
Do I continue to allow them to shoot like this for now or teach them the
proper techniques? When trying to teach them the proper way of shooting,
they complain by saying they can't shoot like that, because they're ball in
not going in the basket. If it works for them and they are making more
baskets than missing, do I need to correct their form?



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Joe (Co-founder of Breakthrough Basketball) says:
1/25/2008 at 11:20:12 AM

Hi Star,

One of the most important aspects in shooting is to shoot the basketball straight. If you have your elbow pointing out, it's almost impossible to shoot the ball straight on consistent basis. Once, they develop this habit, it's even more difficult to change. So, it’s very important to make sure that players are using proper form FROM THE START.

If you are shooting with your elbow out, shots will go the left and to the right with no accuracy. This creates two places that a shooter can go wrong (Assuming that the player’s feet and torso are aligned properly):

1. To the right or the left
2. Too far or too short

If you shoot with your elbow in, almost all shots will go straight. Then, all you have to worry about is the distance you shoot the ball which is fairly easy to adjust to.


There are a few things you want to do in order to fix this.

1. Don’t have them do form shooting at a basket. Have them form 2 lines across from each other. Have the kids shoot with proper form back and forth to each other. That way, the kids are not adjusting their form to get it to the basket.

2. When the kids shoot at a basket, have them dip their elbows. This will help them generate enough power to get the ball up to the hoop. You do not want them to lean forward too much. You want them to keep a fairly erect torso. Some slight forward lean is okay.

I’ve seen this technique used at shooting camps and I’ve seen an 8 year old knock down three pointers on a 10 foot hoop with the correct form. You can also watch Steve Nash. He shoots with his elbow a little bit lower to generate more power from 3-point range.

PROGRESSION: It is very important to track the progression for each child so they can see the improvement. Shooting with their elbows out, let’s say they make 4 out of 10. At first, shooting with their elbows in, they may only make 2 out of 10. The next week, they make 3 out of 10. Two weeks later, they make 4 out of 10. A month later, they make 5 out of 10. Let them know that you understand that they won’t make as many at first, but in the long run, this will help them make more shots.


For more on information, you can visit this link on shooting form:
http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/fundamentals/shooting.html

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Kevin says:
1/18/2009 at 11:05:24 PM

About elbows pointing out...
i am 15 yrs old and shoot with my elbow slightly out but many of my shots go in - around 30-40 percent

many people in the nba and other leagues shoot with they''re elbow slightly out but get heaps of shots in especially Ray Allen who is considered a good jump shooter.
is it really important to keep you''re elbow straight because if it is i might start to do tht

thanks

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Joe Haefner says:
1/19/2009 at 10:52:09 AM

Hi Kevin,

Having your elbow slightly out is fine. You should feel comfortable with your shot. You still want to have your elbow relatively under the ball.

However, you should not have your elbow sticking straight out.

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karissa says:
2/3/2009 at 9:05:36 AM

hi im 15 and i shoot with my elbows out and my coach keeps yelling at me and i dont know what to do sometimes i'll make the it but i usually dont whaT THE BEST WAY FOR A GIRL WHOS HAS C.A.P AND HAS TROUBLE SHOOTIN AND MAKIN IT AND THE OTHR TEAM IS PRESSURING?

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Joe Haefner says:
2/3/2009 at 7:06:04 PM

Hi Karissa,

For more on shooting form, I would check out this link: http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/fundamentals/shooting.html#fundamentals

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John Dodd says:
5/24/2010 at 3:54:34 AM

My Son swears up and down that when he stops dribbling instead of passing the ball or shooting, he can bounce the ball off the defender's foot to make the ball go out on them to avoid a traveling call and get the ball back. Can you set the record straight so I can show him the answer from someone other than his Dad (who is tired of getting the basketball bounced on his toes).

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Joe Ref says:
11/29/2010 at 11:01:26 PM

Sorry Dad, your son is right. If your son gives up his dribble he can throw the ball off your dogs. Essentially he is passing the ball. It''''s a pass as long as he throws the ball and he doesn''''t touch it prior to the ball being touched by another player (or the rim/backboard). As they used to say in Wide World of Sports-the thrill of victory (your son) and the agony of defeat (your toes).
:)

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JP says:
12/24/2012 at 10:03:59 AM

Is it really important to keep your elbow tucked in and pointing to the basket before u shoot? I’m used to placing the ball directly on top of my head before I shoot but then my elbow is sticking out slightly. If I tuck in my elbow it is natural for me to place the ball on the side of my head before I shoot which feels really weird because I’m not used to it. So does it really make a big difference where I place the ball before I shoot and if I should tuck in my elbow with it pointing to the basket? Thanks!

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Ken says:
12/25/2012 at 8:08:39 AM

JP -

This is Joe's answer to all of this... and yes it is important... bottom line, IF you want to be a good shooter - you have to be able to shoot the ball with good form.


Joe (Co-founder of Breakthrough Basketball) says:


One of the most important aspects in shooting is to shoot the basketball straight. If you have your elbow pointing out, it's almost impossible to shoot the ball straight on consistent basis. Once, they develop this habit, it's even more difficult to change. So, it’s very important to make sure that players are using proper form FROM THE START.

If you are shooting with your elbow out, shots will go the left and to the right with no accuracy. This creates two places that a shooter can go wrong (Assuming that the player’s feet and torso are aligned properly):

1. To the right or the left
2. Too far or too short

If you shoot with your elbow in, almost all shots will go straight. Then, all you have to worry about is the distance you shoot the ball which is fairly easy to adjust to.


There are a few things you want to do in order to fix this.

1. Don’t have them do form shooting at a basket. Have them form 2 lines across from each other. Have the kids shoot with proper form back and forth to each other. That way, the kids are not adjusting their form to get it to the basket.

2. When the kids shoot at a basket, have them dip their elbows. This will help them generate enough power to get the ball up to the hoop. You do not want them to lean forward too much. You want them to keep a fairly erect torso. Some slight forward lean is okay.

I’ve seen this technique used at shooting camps and I’ve seen an 8 year old knock down three pointers on a 10 foot hoop with the correct form. You can also watch Steve Nash. He shoots with his elbow a little bit lower to generate more power from 3-point range.

PROGRESSION: It is very important to track the progression for each child so they can see the improvement. Shooting with their elbows out, let’s say they make 4 out of 10. At first, shooting with their elbows in, they may only make 2 out of 10. The next week, they make 3 out of 10. Two weeks later, they make 4 out of 10. A month later, they make 5 out of 10. Let them know that you understand that they won’t make as many at first, but in the long run, this will help them make more shots.


For more on information, you can visit this link on shooting form:
http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/fundamentals/shooting.html


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Bernard says:
1/6/2013 at 5:50:48 AM

Hi, which is more important, correct form, or comfort. And could you possibly give me a simple breakdown on what muscle groups are used when shooting basketball?

Thanks, Bernard

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