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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2014, 17:03 

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I watched the layup progression video by Joe. It's great!!!. Best one in this category on youtube for beginners!!!

When can you guys do a beginners' video similar to the layup progression for the following skills?
V-cut, L-cut
Jump/quick stop
Pivot.

I do see there is written web page on jump stop drill on this site. But a video will be nice.
These things sound simple. But if they don't do it correctly, bad habit will stick with the kids. For example, I had my son do a V-cut. He ran it forward and then totally backward. I explained to him about 'pushing' off his foot when changing direction with angle. After that, he runs an angle but ends up moving legs laterally. If you move you legs laterally, it's hard to do a jump stop to stabilize and catch the ball. I'm kind of confused myself.

It seems to me V-cut, jump/quick stop and pivot are very important moves. But I don't see any coaches here teach them at all in practice.

If you guys don't have time to do the video, any links to existing videos will be appreciated.


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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2014, 17:40 

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These guys have some pretty good videos on the subjects you mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WxRqI_cjcs
V cut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEJQ6GkPX0c
L cut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7X5E-rtjjA
Jump stop & pivot

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PostPosted: 08 Jan 2014, 08:19 
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Thank you for the kind words, Michael! We appreciate the suggestions and will see if it's possible in the future.

Coach Rob had some great links there. I would check them out.

One thing I would nit-pick about the v-cut is NOT to make a line cut. A line cut is when you finish the cut from the same spot that you started the cut from.

You literally want to make a shape of a V when cutting, so you should finish your cut closer to the ball than when you started the cut.

This is due to passing angles. If you cut to the same spot, the defender has to cover less ground to deflect the pass which means you have to cover more ground to get open.

If your cut is closer more in the shape of a V, then the defender has to cover more ground to deflect the pass.

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PostPosted: 08 Jan 2014, 08:43 

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Thanks for the reply.
My question is around how V-cut is being done. What I noticed is that if you create an angle (especially close to 90 degree (L-cut)), you have to slide you feet, which is what my son did. that seems slower.
from what I know, you need to put your weight to the front foot and then use that foot to push you to change direction. once direction is changed, you run forward and then come to a quick stop or jump stop to receive the ball.

so the questions are
does it matter if you slide in parallel or you need to change direction and run forward
also, how many steps should you run? I'm thinking you need to run at least two steps or even three to create some space with defender in order to receive a pass?
at end of the run, it should be a quick or jump stop, right?


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PostPosted: 08 Jan 2014, 09:40 
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Keep in mind that if you ask 10 coaches, you'll probably get 10 different answers on the fine details of cutting, getting open, etc. There are different ways to go about things and not necessarily a right or wrong way, as long as it works and you are getting open.

Also, the Shot Science videos are great. But keep in mind that any good defensive team will not have players playing defense the way they did in the video. Most good defensive teams will be up-the-line in a closed stance so you can easily shuffle and stay with the defender as they v-cut.

So in my opinion, the concept of getting your "inside hip and inside shoulder" between the defender and the ball is what is important. If you know how to do that, it doesn't matter what type of defense they play. This means you go into the defender and use your footwork to get your hip and shoulder inside.

Here is yet another way to get open (hit and blast... almost like mini v-cut using your body). In this case you see the defender in a more realistic position.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKS95mG7NcE

This is not to confuse, but just to point out there are so many different ways to get open and different ways to teach things. I prefer the "inside hip" concept. But that's just me.

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PostPosted: 08 Jan 2014, 12:47 

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My pet peeve with the V cut (or any cut for that matter) is kids being lazy. It won't matter how much technique you have if the defender doesn't buy your move in the first place. Kids that V cut half speed won't cut it, the move has to be violent, quick and sharp with an exploding push off back.

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PostPosted: 14 Oct 2014, 19:32 

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Just adding my two cents to this discussion.

I always taught the v-cut as a change of speed. I didn't mind them walking the defender down, as long as they turned, sealed, and exploded going out. I never wanted players moving all at one speed, but instead wanted them to change speeds, making them harder to guard.

The other tough part of the v-cut is the timing: when do you start your cut? It needs to be varied based on the speed your making it relative to the position of the ball. Ideally you'll break open as the ball reaches the initiation point. Just my thoughts.


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