Kids that do drills with ease, at game time do nothing
12/19/2014 14:53
I'm working with 7-8 year old boys. I have 9 on my team, they are doing great I do drills from this site. Problem I have my boys that do the drills almost perfect are my worst player when it come game time. They dribble best, good form layups, foot work etc, but put any pressure on them and they crack. The kids that are sloppy score all the points get all the rebound but its sloppy. Make wild shots and foul like crazy. What can I do to get the kids that are fundamentally better to play in the games. I have to say they do make great passes and all there foul shoots. We went 16 out of 20 on foul shouts and won 35 to 30 against the most agressive team in our league.
12/19/2014 15:00
How much time do you spend on competitive drills versus non-competitive drills?
For example, a stationary figure 8 dribbling drill would be considered non-competitive drill. Where a drill like high 5 one-on-one would be considered competitive.
http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/drills/high-five-one-on-one.html
For example, a stationary figure 8 dribbling drill would be considered non-competitive drill. Where a drill like high 5 one-on-one would be considered competitive.
http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/drills/high-five-one-on-one.html
12/19/2014 15:04
I actually did that drill last practice. I do a lot of 1v1 drills. On defense all my kids do great no timid players there, it's just offense where they crack at.
12/19/2014 15:33
So is it just lay ups where they crack? Or is it passing too?
12/21/2014 00:47
Layups and shooting ,passing the do good at. Not aggressive
12/21/2014 04:50
Coach,
Can you clarify what you mean by not aggressive shooting and lay-ups?
Is it that they hesitate to take open shots?
Is that they don't seek contact going up for lay-ups and try to avoid going into the defender? Do they fade away?
I would also say that with 7-8 year olds, if you have them sound fundamentally, that is the most key thing. Aggressiveness tends to come with familiarity and game experience. There really is no substitute for that experience. As they grow and mature, as they gain playing experience, they will develop that aggressiveness naturally.
Just my thoughts, doesn't make me correct.
Brian Sass
Can you clarify what you mean by not aggressive shooting and lay-ups?
Is it that they hesitate to take open shots?
Is that they don't seek contact going up for lay-ups and try to avoid going into the defender? Do they fade away?
I would also say that with 7-8 year olds, if you have them sound fundamentally, that is the most key thing. Aggressiveness tends to come with familiarity and game experience. There really is no substitute for that experience. As they grow and mature, as they gain playing experience, they will develop that aggressiveness naturally.
Just my thoughts, doesn't make me correct.
Brian Sass
12/21/2014 12:52
I have a couple 4th graders that do things well in practice but in games they freeze. I still can't figure out why. Each kid is different. I don't know if they are scared to make mistakes, nervous, don't want to be there, thinking too much, forget what to do under pressure, etc.
There are so many unique personalities out there. What works for one kid doesn't work for another. However in most cases I think kids freeze in games because of fear of failure. They are scared to miss and/or make mistakes.
I'd be patient because most just snap out of it with experience. Then all you can do is get to know them and try to help them realize it's ok to miss shots and make mistakes.
There are so many unique personalities out there. What works for one kid doesn't work for another. However in most cases I think kids freeze in games because of fear of failure. They are scared to miss and/or make mistakes.
I'd be patient because most just snap out of it with experience. Then all you can do is get to know them and try to help them realize it's ok to miss shots and make mistakes.
12/21/2014 14:54
briansass wrote:Coach,
Can you clarify what you mean by not aggressive shooting and lay-ups?
Is it that they hesitate to take open shots?
Is that they don't seek contact going up for lay-ups and try to avoid going into the defender? Do they fade away?
Brian Sass
All of the above. Also give you a example other night we played 3on3 man to man defense. The kids that i say are sloppy would not play man to man. They where all over the place only attacking who has the ball. They don't pass, walk and foul, but they score like crazy. The kids that are staying with there man and passing don't score at all unless it's a foul shot. The sloppy kids points come from fast breaks, after they rough up the kid with the ball they take it and score. It don't matter if they have 3 defenders on them they will try to take a shot. They are scoring but it's not team basketball the kids that look fundamental better just don't score.
12/21/2014 15:06
I think it was Bear Bryant who said that it was amazing how quickly a message traveled from the rear end to the brain. If they aren't doing what you have asked them to do, sit them. Explain why they are being sat.
At the same time, they are only 7 and 8. They will not always be under control and they will do things on the court that will frustrate you and confuse you.
Trust me, I've been coaching 7th and 8th graders and even they do some things on court which I find myself very frustrated at.
In practice, work on the things you want them to do. On the defensive end, practice 3 on 3 and 4 on 4 shell. If they start to free-lance and do whatever they want, have them do push-ups or running.
The free-lance element is something that I struggle with in the game of basketball. Some kids have instincts and thoughts on the court which occur naturally that may not fit with the system, but are aggressive and you want to encourage.
The trick is seeing and reinforcing those instincts that will continue to serve them well at the next level, and correcting those that won't.
I was constantly telling and reinforcing to my kids that just because some of the things they were doing were successful last year, or in park district, or previously when they played does NOT mean that they will work as they get to a higher level. At the same time, I fight with myself constantly because I still WANT my players to be aggressive on the court. I want them to trust their instincts. I want them to play from a place that is natural. I don't want them thinking too much. So it is a good question. Some of this could just be basic comprehension and the natural extension of growing as athletes and as kids. As they get older and more mature, they'll better be able to harness their aggression and instincts to your instruction.
Just my thoughts, I know they meandered a bit.
Brian Sass
At the same time, they are only 7 and 8. They will not always be under control and they will do things on the court that will frustrate you and confuse you.
Trust me, I've been coaching 7th and 8th graders and even they do some things on court which I find myself very frustrated at.
In practice, work on the things you want them to do. On the defensive end, practice 3 on 3 and 4 on 4 shell. If they start to free-lance and do whatever they want, have them do push-ups or running.
The free-lance element is something that I struggle with in the game of basketball. Some kids have instincts and thoughts on the court which occur naturally that may not fit with the system, but are aggressive and you want to encourage.
The trick is seeing and reinforcing those instincts that will continue to serve them well at the next level, and correcting those that won't.
I was constantly telling and reinforcing to my kids that just because some of the things they were doing were successful last year, or in park district, or previously when they played does NOT mean that they will work as they get to a higher level. At the same time, I fight with myself constantly because I still WANT my players to be aggressive on the court. I want them to trust their instincts. I want them to play from a place that is natural. I don't want them thinking too much. So it is a good question. Some of this could just be basic comprehension and the natural extension of growing as athletes and as kids. As they get older and more mature, they'll better be able to harness their aggression and instincts to your instruction.
Just my thoughts, I know they meandered a bit.
Brian Sass
12/21/2014 15:16
I may be wrong but I have a feeling the kids that listen and do as I tell them over time will be come better team players
12/21/2014 15:24
Yea... these kids are so young. Just keep teaching and working on those fundamentals. I always have to remind myself that coaching youth basketball is a marathon, not a sprint.
Some kids will take a while to play defense the way you want. 7 and 8 year olds have completely different minds than adults. Things will change a lot as they get older.
What you are experiencing is normal. They will all come around with time (years) and persistence.
Some kids will take a while to play defense the way you want. 7 and 8 year olds have completely different minds than adults. Things will change a lot as they get older.
What you are experiencing is normal. They will all come around with time (years) and persistence.
12/24/2014 21:36
Found out it's probly there attention span. I spent 50% of the game yelling stay with your man defense and move don't stand in one spot on offense. Much better results all the kids where shooting the ball. I been doing multiple 1 on 1 drills and having 3 on 3 games at practice. This game the score was 42 to 10, I even took my best players out after the first qtr my timid kids where shooting and tuff on defense. Also once you get a 20 pt lead they don't keep score anymore in our league so the score board did not show this.


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