What up everyone, hope everyone is doing good...
I've been playing ball for 15 years, but I've never had a jumper. I've bought projects such as:
1. The Bandit
2. Better Shooting
3. Jumpusa Naypalm
4. Nike Shooting Ball
I've done all these in bits and pieces and as a result my shot has never consistent and instead is forced. I've tried to shoot the ball like the pros; I've tried to mimic Nash, Allen, and Bird. I feel like all of it has messed any shot I ever had
I'm ready to transform my shot and become a shooter.
Any tips on where to start for my transformation? Thanks
Shooting Troubles...
2/18/2011 11:11
2/18/2011 14:30
Here are a few things I have found -
http://www.hoopsking.com/pejush.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6gsevzCAnA&feature=related
But looking at what you have already done, maybe you should invest in a personal trainer IF that is possible.
http://www.hoopsking.com/pejush.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6gsevzCAnA&feature=related
But looking at what you have already done, maybe you should invest in a personal trainer IF that is possible.
2/18/2011 15:35
Like Ken suggests, the best thing you can do is get a shooting coach / basketball trainer.
Once you develop your shot, don't change it! Everything needs to be consistent.
Each and every component must be consistent and done the same way...
1. Your feet must be lined up and in the same position every time. This will help the alignment of your shot.
2. Your shot pocket and grip on the ball should be the same every time. Generally speaking, the ball should be held between the upper chest and the top of the nose.
Think about it: If you vary the position of the ball in your shot pocket, you’ll throw off the timing and control of your shot as well as its power and distance.
3. Your shot motion and arm position should be the same every time.
4. Your knee bend and jump should be consistent. The height of your jump should be nearly the same every time. (No, it’s usually not best to jump as high as you can!)
5. Your release point and follow-through should be the same every time. Your hand should be in the exact same position, resulting in the same soft shot every time.
Consistency! Consistency! Consistency!
It doesn’t matter if you’re shooting a 3 pointer, an 8-footer in the lane, or a jumper off the dribble; your mechanics will always be the same.
If you look at all of the greatest shooters in the world, they ALL shoot the exact same way every time. They jump the same height. They release they same way, and so on. They might have varying techniques and their shot might look different, but they are all consistent.
How do you develop consistent mechanics?
You must practice consistently. You need to shoot 500-1000 shots a week. That is how you develop consistency and accuracy.
But not only do you need to practice consistently, you need to practice smart. Shooting 1000 shots with bad form or inconsistent form will not help you. So you should start shooting away from the basket. You need about 5000 shots away from the basket with correct form. Then you can move to the basket and start practicing your shots.
Once you develop your shot, don't change it! Everything needs to be consistent.
Each and every component must be consistent and done the same way...
1. Your feet must be lined up and in the same position every time. This will help the alignment of your shot.
2. Your shot pocket and grip on the ball should be the same every time. Generally speaking, the ball should be held between the upper chest and the top of the nose.
Think about it: If you vary the position of the ball in your shot pocket, you’ll throw off the timing and control of your shot as well as its power and distance.
3. Your shot motion and arm position should be the same every time.
4. Your knee bend and jump should be consistent. The height of your jump should be nearly the same every time. (No, it’s usually not best to jump as high as you can!)
5. Your release point and follow-through should be the same every time. Your hand should be in the exact same position, resulting in the same soft shot every time.
Consistency! Consistency! Consistency!
It doesn’t matter if you’re shooting a 3 pointer, an 8-footer in the lane, or a jumper off the dribble; your mechanics will always be the same.
If you look at all of the greatest shooters in the world, they ALL shoot the exact same way every time. They jump the same height. They release they same way, and so on. They might have varying techniques and their shot might look different, but they are all consistent.
How do you develop consistent mechanics?
You must practice consistently. You need to shoot 500-1000 shots a week. That is how you develop consistency and accuracy.
But not only do you need to practice consistently, you need to practice smart. Shooting 1000 shots with bad form or inconsistent form will not help you. So you should start shooting away from the basket. You need about 5000 shots away from the basket with correct form. Then you can move to the basket and start practicing your shots.
2/18/2011 16:00
I think that Jeff has said it perfectly.....
Consistency! Consistency! Consistency!
PERFECT PRACTICE makes PERFECT...... we cant see your shot so you have to find someone who will look at it ( someone who knows what they are doing ) and help you create that perfect shot.
We taught all of our players the same way... parents from other schools commented on that... a nice compliment... NOW, IF I had a kid that was knocking down shots from anywhere on the floor, I wouldn't tough his shot.... if it aint broke, don't fix it.
Good luck
Consistency! Consistency! Consistency!
PERFECT PRACTICE makes PERFECT...... we cant see your shot so you have to find someone who will look at it ( someone who knows what they are doing ) and help you create that perfect shot.
We taught all of our players the same way... parents from other schools commented on that... a nice compliment... NOW, IF I had a kid that was knocking down shots from anywhere on the floor, I wouldn't tough his shot.... if it aint broke, don't fix it.
Good luck
2/18/2011 16:05
I know that Tom Nordland might be offering a service where he evaluates your shot via video. You upload videos and he critiques your shot. You obviously have to pay for that but he's very good and it would be cheaper than a trainer. If he comes out with that service we can let you know.
2/18/2011 21:59
I agree its all about consistency, consistency, consistency. What I still have The Bandit to allow a perfect 90 degree elbow, but what would be some drills to develop a consistent away from the basket?
Jeff you said I need to shoot 5000 baskets away from the basket before I can actually start shooting...that is very interesting
Jeff you said I need to shoot 5000 baskets away from the basket before I can actually start shooting...that is very interesting
2/18/2011 22:15
Jeff is referring to FORM shooting against a wall.... that way you will develop the muscle memory for the consistency that you are looking for.
5,000 is a lot of form shooting but it will certainly develop your form - I still think that with all the shooting stuff you have tried - a trainer or shooting instructer would be the best for you.
You haven't told us that your form is bad or good... you are just saying that you don't have a jumper... and you have been playing for 15 years... Do you have a jumper and its just not good?
5,000 is a lot of form shooting but it will certainly develop your form - I still think that with all the shooting stuff you have tried - a trainer or shooting instructer would be the best for you.
You haven't told us that your form is bad or good... you are just saying that you don't have a jumper... and you have been playing for 15 years... Do you have a jumper and its just not good?
2/18/2011 22:34
Well my form is "okay" I have close to a 90 degree elbow, however many times the ball hits the top of my forehead. I have a little hitch at the top of jumper (almost like a push shot).
I am somewhat of a perfectionist and I always practiced perfect form, but instead of having a easy flowing shot I instead have a rigid and stressed shot.
I can make jumpers but their not consistent and during games I may change my form to whatever is comfortable during a game. I want to work to get a consistent and comfortable form and jump shot
I am somewhat of a perfectionist and I always practiced perfect form, but instead of having a easy flowing shot I instead have a rigid and stressed shot.
I can make jumpers but their not consistent and during games I may change my form to whatever is comfortable during a game. I want to work to get a consistent and comfortable form and jump shot
2/18/2011 23:58
A couple of quick things... if your is hitting your forehead your elbow is out a little bit too far.... try some form shooting using ONE hand... that way you elbow will be under the ball.
The other thing is this.... you need to get comfortable with the CORRECT FORM and use that every time.... you will never be consistent if you keep changing your shot during games.
Perfect practice can do this. A lot of reps.
The other thing is this.... you need to get comfortable with the CORRECT FORM and use that every time.... you will never be consistent if you keep changing your shot during games.
Perfect practice can do this. A lot of reps.
2/19/2011 23:44
Coach could you recommend me some form shooting exercises to work with?
2/19/2011 23:48
I think you are a classic example of someone that has overthought your skill and, for all of you good intentions and hard work, has looked for shortcuts to become a better shooter.
Shooting is a very personal skill. None of those outside "aids" will do anything but make the people that sold them to you richer. Patterning yourself after and emulating others is a recipe for sure failure. Worrying about whether your elbow is at 90 degrees or any other degree puts your attention in the wrong places.
Shooting is very personal and individual. Two things have to be present. First, you have to be comfortable. Second, it has to be the same thing every time. There are a couple of things that I might emphasize if you were in the gym with me but you're not so I won't give you that guidance.
I will tell you this, though. Make a commitment to one style and stick with it through thick and thin. If you change every time you have a bad day, you will never get good at anything. Practice what you are going to do - a lot. When you play, trust your practice. If you feel you need to make a correction, don't do it in competition, what until you get back to practice. Trust yourself and let it go.
If you really want an outside aid, read the book, "Zen Golf." it is a great book about the mental process of performing fine motor skills.
Shooting is a very personal skill. None of those outside "aids" will do anything but make the people that sold them to you richer. Patterning yourself after and emulating others is a recipe for sure failure. Worrying about whether your elbow is at 90 degrees or any other degree puts your attention in the wrong places.
Shooting is very personal and individual. Two things have to be present. First, you have to be comfortable. Second, it has to be the same thing every time. There are a couple of things that I might emphasize if you were in the gym with me but you're not so I won't give you that guidance.
I will tell you this, though. Make a commitment to one style and stick with it through thick and thin. If you change every time you have a bad day, you will never get good at anything. Practice what you are going to do - a lot. When you play, trust your practice. If you feel you need to make a correction, don't do it in competition, what until you get back to practice. Trust yourself and let it go.
If you really want an outside aid, read the book, "Zen Golf." it is a great book about the mental process of performing fine motor skills.
2/20/2011 07:29
Thank you for your honest advice. If I am able to post my short shooting video on here would you mind giving it a short critique?
2/20/2011 14:36
As long as you don't take it too seriously. Regardless of what I say, you have to commit to whatever you feel is best for you.
2/21/2011 15:14
Coach K has given you some good advice..... and as we have said... consistency is the key.... you get consistency by practicing and shooting the same way all the time...
I for one believed in teaching shooting using George Lehman's shooting technique starting with BEEF and working from there. Beef is Balance, Elbow under the ball, Eye on the target and Follow through... Some coaches have different ways of teaching shooting... but that is what worked for me and our teams.
Here is something that I got from Randy Brown's site.....
10 Characteristics of Good and Poor Shooters
Shooting advice for all players at all levels
1. Good Shooters spend time each day on proper shooting technique. Good Shooters use a chair to "form shoot" for 10 minutes before taking their first shot at the basket.
Poor Shooters spend time on their shooting technique when they "have time." Poor Shooters grab a ball and go to the three point line to begin launching shots.
2. Good Shooters work on moving without the ball and "prepare" the shoot the ball before ever catching it.
Poor Shooters wait for their turn to shoot then think about getting a shot off.
3. Good Shooters start close to the basket and make 5 straight before moving back.
Poor shooters shoot from all areas of the floor "hoping to make it."
4. Good Shooters study other good shooters and follow their habits
Poor Shooters shoot the ball the same way without any help from others.
5. Good Shooters study the path of the ball and where the ball hits the rim. They make adjustments based on where the ball hits the rim; long/short, right/ left.
Poor Shooters judge their shooting accuracy solely on whether the ball goes in or not.
6. Good Shooters square up to the basket before shooing, called "Ten Toes."
Poor Shooters are not concerned with alignment they just want to quickly get their shot off.
7. Good Shooters shoot from an athletic position known as Triple Threat position. One quick movement from triple threat produces a solid shot.
Poor Shooters catch the ball in an upright position then take time to bend their knees before shooting. Poor Shooters do not play in triple threat.
8. Good Shooters use their whole body to shoot the shot. They know that their LEGS make shots with good form.
Poor shooters shoot the ball with their upper body only and throw the ball at the basket instead of shooting it.
9. Good Shooters follow through consistently by "throwing their hand into the basket."
Poor Shooters are inconsistent in their follow through resulting in inconsistent results.
10. Good Shooters understand the importance of BALANCE before, during and after the shot! The feet are always under their head.
Poor Shooters shoot off balance from all different kinds of angles. Their feet are rarely under their head.
Key Questions:
1. How many of these describe YOU as a shooter?
2. Your goal is to accomplish all 10 of the "Good Shooter" characteristics as you grow and develop as a basketball player.
3. What is your score out of 10 and how badly do you want to be a Good Shooter?
I for one believed in teaching shooting using George Lehman's shooting technique starting with BEEF and working from there. Beef is Balance, Elbow under the ball, Eye on the target and Follow through... Some coaches have different ways of teaching shooting... but that is what worked for me and our teams.
Here is something that I got from Randy Brown's site.....
10 Characteristics of Good and Poor Shooters
Shooting advice for all players at all levels
1. Good Shooters spend time each day on proper shooting technique. Good Shooters use a chair to "form shoot" for 10 minutes before taking their first shot at the basket.
Poor Shooters spend time on their shooting technique when they "have time." Poor Shooters grab a ball and go to the three point line to begin launching shots.
2. Good Shooters work on moving without the ball and "prepare" the shoot the ball before ever catching it.
Poor Shooters wait for their turn to shoot then think about getting a shot off.
3. Good Shooters start close to the basket and make 5 straight before moving back.
Poor shooters shoot from all areas of the floor "hoping to make it."
4. Good Shooters study other good shooters and follow their habits
Poor Shooters shoot the ball the same way without any help from others.
5. Good Shooters study the path of the ball and where the ball hits the rim. They make adjustments based on where the ball hits the rim; long/short, right/ left.
Poor Shooters judge their shooting accuracy solely on whether the ball goes in or not.
6. Good Shooters square up to the basket before shooing, called "Ten Toes."
Poor Shooters are not concerned with alignment they just want to quickly get their shot off.
7. Good Shooters shoot from an athletic position known as Triple Threat position. One quick movement from triple threat produces a solid shot.
Poor Shooters catch the ball in an upright position then take time to bend their knees before shooting. Poor Shooters do not play in triple threat.
8. Good Shooters use their whole body to shoot the shot. They know that their LEGS make shots with good form.
Poor shooters shoot the ball with their upper body only and throw the ball at the basket instead of shooting it.
9. Good Shooters follow through consistently by "throwing their hand into the basket."
Poor Shooters are inconsistent in their follow through resulting in inconsistent results.
10. Good Shooters understand the importance of BALANCE before, during and after the shot! The feet are always under their head.
Poor Shooters shoot off balance from all different kinds of angles. Their feet are rarely under their head.
Key Questions:
1. How many of these describe YOU as a shooter?
2. Your goal is to accomplish all 10 of the "Good Shooter" characteristics as you grow and develop as a basketball player.
3. What is your score out of 10 and how badly do you want to be a Good Shooter?
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