i would like to thank you for these points ,as you we need all the time to get new ideas ,because basketball is full of fresh ideas that could help the coaches,neverthess,i noticed that in this drill or whatever u call it ,i did not see any idea about going inside ,i mean i did not see any idea that we could offer to the guards so as if they have the chance to go inside ,

again thank you

Hi Maher,

The guards should always be looking to pass the ball into the post area if the post player is open.

thank you

hi joe ,thank very much for all the ideas that ur heping us with ,i have a question for ,how to play against a [ 3-2 zone] and also if it's possible how to play against [ man to man defense ] again thank you very much and god bless you .

best regards .. Maher Matar .

Hi Maher,

You can look here for a simple offense to use against man to man defenses: http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/plays/youth-offense-2.html

We will be adding more offenses here shortly and you'll be notified in our newsletter.

I would like to see info on attacking a 3-2 zone defense

very good. i've been running that same play for about 5 years but i like the rotation of the 4 and 5 men. thanks

Which type of offence works best against a 2-1-2 zone? I have 7 and 8 year old players, any ideas?
Tha nks

Chuck,

To be completely honest with you, I would not worry about teaching 7 and 8 year olds how to beat a 2-1-2 zone.

There more important things than winning and your players will be MUCH better off in the long run by learning other things.

In fact, zones, traps, and presses should be against the rules for youth kids of that age. You should find a better league with rules for youth kids.

Your players should learn fundamentals like proper shooting form, pivoting footwork, ballhandling skills, basic motion offense movements (cuts, screens, etc).

For offense, we don't spend much time with youth players. We just teach them basic spacing and simple motion movements as explained at one of the links below.

Read a couple of these articles for more tips and ideas for kids of that age:
http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/defense/age.html

http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/coaching/youthbasketball.html

http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/coaching/youthfundamentals.html

http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/qa/q1-verybasicyouthdrills.html

I know this wasn't the answer that you’re looking for but it's what best for your players.

Jeff Haefner
http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com

Chuck,

If you do stay in that league, the only thing can do against a 2-1-2 zone is to put your kids on the gaps:

1 player at top of key
2 wings
2 corners
1 player roaming the middle block area

They can fill the gaps, pass the ball around, and look for open seams in the defense. They can also do some basic cuts and same fundamental skills done against man to man.

Jeff

I like this version of this zone offense. I would suggest that the offside wing should also be pinching into the gap to encourage the defenders to pay more attention to the weakside. Thanks for all the help!!!

we ran this same play last year. great play if the ball move around quickly

This is a great zone offense. I have used it for years and we have been very successful with it. It is very hard to stop it especially if your 4 and 5 can shoot from the short corner.

I hated basketball as a kid. Now I coach my son's team and am in my 5th year!. Since finding this site I have developed a love for the sport.

Teaching 5th and 6th graders this sport has been easier because I have to learn it as I go. No pre-concieved notions - just like them.

Our kids have found their creative juices in the 1-3-1 set. If you look at the drills, it's easy to find ones that teach wing play, post play and guard ball handling skills that feed into this offense.

Thanks, and Great Job.

I have a rec league high school team with 3 scorers, (2 Guards, 1 point forward) 2 average players (1 guard, 1 SF), and 3 players who struggle understanding the game.

There is rules about playing time also.

Teams are starting to play 2-3 zone against us because the lower players really struggle to get theses offensive concepts.

What is a 2-3 zone offense I can use to get the PG, SG, and point forward the ball and shots?

how about using jump passes.i think it's the most effective pass in basktball

Most coaches don't like "Jump Passes." If a player jumps to pass the ball and the passing lane closes, they are stuck and have to force a pass which will often result in a turnover.

thanks man the advice of the offense above is just great. it actually laid our team to season victory.

One thing I found about running a close variation of this offense is that the perimeter players might have a tendency to become inactive. I added an option out of this that we call 13 GO (we call this offense "13" for the formation).

In 13 GO, the 4 moves more to the corner. After the wing passes to the corner, he cuts to the basket for a potential give and go pass back. If he is not open, he continues through the lane and to the opposite wing. The point then fills the vacated wing and the offside wing fills the point. This creates movement in the offense and makes the defense honor the cutters, opening up other holes in the defense.

YEP. ITS COOOOOOL.. BUT IF U CAN CROSS ONE OF YOUR WIN PLAYERS , THAT WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE EASY.

what''s a good offense against a 2/2/1 defense that picks you up right past half court? we have trouble getting set up to run our plays. thanks so much for your input.

Hi John,

Personally, I llike to keep it simple. Here's what I do against presses.

Use a 2-1-2 formation. Put two guards in the back court. One player in the middle. Two players on the on opposite sidelines slightly past half-court. You can adjust this based on how the press is playing. You can have them come back to the ball or stay deep.

Have the two guards pass the ball back and forth while trying to get the ball in the middle or down the court to the wings.

Joe Haefner
www.breakthroughbasketball.com



If the ball gets to the middle, he can look to pass it to the players on the wings or hold the ball until one of the guards get open to get the pass returned to them.

If they get the ball to the wing players, they usually have a 2-on-1 fast break opportunity.

tnx

Hey, I in 8th grade basketball, this help me a lot!!! Thanks!

Hey, i like to look at these cause these plays actually work. I am in 8th grade and this play looks good and im going to show my coach this. Thanks for the play, it looks like it will work pretty well

Tyler

it's a good play. how about if we run like this: the post player occupied the short corner will go directly to other side where the ball is located and the player occupying the high post player moves from one elbow to another following the ball movement. that's only a suggestion

this helped me a whole lot thanks il use it in games

I am coaching 5th and 6th grade girls and I believe this will work really well. However, I would appreciate some counsel because most of my guards are beginners and cannot move the ball well (dribble or pass) and I do not want to be so transparent that we provide the defense with steals. Do you think this is a good approach (Yo Yo) for a team of beginner guards with experienced forwards?
Thanks so much for this bountiful site!

Byron B

We've always called this same play "X." A good base zone offense. Maybe this could be another option for someone:

When the ball goes to either wing, a team can also look for an opening for the opposite wing player slashing somewhere around the middle of the lane. The 12 footer will more than likely be there for a quick shot, or even an attack to the basket for a lay-up. If not there, the opposite wing cutter should recognize they're not open and pop back out in order to avoid clogging things up. Looking for that opening and making a cut like that will also help keep the defense a little more honest.

Thanks for the site and the work you put into it!

just a sugestion When the ball is on the wing pass to short corner if undefended a straight forward jump shot if defended player at the top cuts to ring short corner passes ball in to cutter works for me.

Joe,
I had a question with using a 2-1-2 offense against a press. Which players would you put where? Obviously the 1 and 2 guards would be in the back court, but how would you place the 3,4,5 in a full court press?

You can place them however you want. I usually put the 5 in the middle and 3 and 4 on the sideline. 3 and 4 have to be able to catch and drive to the basket. 5 must be able to catch, pivot, and pass under pressure.

oNCE THE BALL GOES INTO THE POST, TEACH YOUNG PLAYERS THIS RULE: THE BASELINE PLAYER STILL GOES TO HOOP VIA BASELINE ---"WE SAY GET ON TOP OF THE BOX."

BUT FOR A REAL DYNAMIC MOVE, HAVE THE OPPOSITE WING DIVE TO THE "TOP OF THE BOX" AS WELL. tHE WEAKSIDE POST-TO-POST PASS IS THE MOST DIFFICULT TO DEFEND!

I've been running a play similar to this for several seasons for Middle and elementary school kids. I call it criss-cross and frankly thought I invented it myself till I saw this site today. I even have the same variation of the weak side wing and PG switching. I strongly recommend 1 more part that will get you several baskets a game. When either 4 or 5 get the ball - the weak side wing breaks toward the basket for a dump pass/layup or to get a weak side rebound. if they dont get the ball - they kick back to their wing spot.
Caution if the ball goes to a wing then quickly to 4/5 the switch and cut is behind the play.

"Hi Maher,

The guards should always be looking to pass the ball into the post area if the post player is open. "

JOE
Maher, asked if there is any play for guards, beside passing. i meen any play for them to score????

My team has done this for years.
Works quite well just not time after time.

This is a GREAT site i am only 12 and i LOVE basketball, and in the summer i go to the gym and i like to have some drills and this site improved my game! Thanks so much for helping me become a better player!
Cassidy

I have run a variation of this with middle schoolers, and it works very well. I would add only that the wing who feeds the post should slide to the corner to occupy the block defender in the 2-3. The low player should stay behind the second line of defense and flash into the gap once the defense rotates on the post pass. It makes the dump down easy. If you get that a couple of times, the block defender will start to stay home, which will open up the corner for a catch and shot or catch-shot-fake-jumper.

Remember to teach the kids to move the ball quickly and to use pass and shot fakes. You'll demoralize the zone.

This is great, my players are doing just as mentioned they are falling complacent at the wings...and at the 4 and 5 as well..." Very easy" and not to demanding.

We need to know a play in respect of the new 3pts modification

How do we breakthrough a zone defense with players 20-30 cm than our team? (We don't have 3-point shooters)

I Disagree with Coach Haefner. Why not play in youth leagues that allow pressing and/or all types of defenses? This is what these kids will face as soon as they move up. Yes it is good to teach the fundamentals first and foremost as this is the basis for learning this great game of ours,however I am of the opinion one can do both teach the fundamentals and play in the qusi more competitive leagues which will produce the better basketball athlete in the long run.

@ google... one of the best ways to breakthrough a zone defense with players taller than yours is simply to outrun it. Take a look at developing a good transition game and incorporate it into your gameplan. another way is a pretty decent zone screening offense (box sets).and simply using these plays to force the zone to mis-rotate...try those things and I guarantee you will play against zone defenses better. let me know how that works out for you

Coach Brooks -

Take a look at this article and let us know what you think:
http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/defense/age.html

Thanks for the feedback.

Coach Brooks -

Take a look at the article Jeff sent... you will see how many coaches feel that m2m is the way to go, including myself... especially at the younger ages.

Jeff suggested 3 on 3 games, that would make all these arguements a moot point.

Usually younger teams play zones because its easier to teach and you can win more.... young kids cant shoot well from the perimiter.... makes the zones look great.

There is so much to teach younger kids, take that time and spend it on fundamentals and don't worry about the Ws. You can read some of my posts along with Jeff & Joes and you will know where we stand and why.

used this play for years called it iowa since tom davis ran it when there. the only difference the post player or the mirror we call her goes from post to block.and the girl in corner just runs the baseline corner to corner usually best shooter as ball goes from side to side always lookin in to the mirror as she rolls with ball or looking for the shooter running corner to corne my 4th grade girls picked it up in 2 practices and run it great swinging the ball. my jr college team i helped with years ago ran it.this is a great offense simple to run and the more advance the kids are the more variations you can add. glad to see you have it posted to help out younger coaches and kids.