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| Author: | Coach Sar [ 22 Oct 2010, 06:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
A friend of mine put one of our games on his web site.... this was a long time ago but it shows you some of the things we did.... we ran some 3 out 2 in, some sets and a lot of Open Post.... take a look and you will see that no one cared who scored but they did know WHO could do what. This is truly a TEAM oriented offense. http://www.ihigh.com/school5105/video_886382.html Let me know what you think. I hope that he listens to you... and that he understands that this is a team game... Think about defense ... when someone scores does it affect the the one defender or the entire team? Remind him of my comments regarding Michael Jordon and NOT winning any championships UNTIL Phil Jackson convinced him to get others involved. Let us know how it goes. |
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| Author: | Coach Kris [ 22 Oct 2010, 06:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
Thanks for the link! I will watch it tonight! I'll let you know what I think of it tonight (here in holland tonight haha). I think I know now how to talk him into his team again and make him a better teamplayer. I will keep you posted. |
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| Author: | Coach Sar [ 22 Oct 2010, 06:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
After you watch this you will see my point guard do a lot of things that I think you want this kid to do. Set up others and get his shots when they present them to him. Being the ultimate team player.... and trust me, he was a handful growing up too. He DID understand the TEAM CONCEPT though. Maybe you can sit down with him and write some goals .. something that he can see in black and white. Good luck. |
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| Author: | Coach Kris [ 22 Oct 2010, 15:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
I can see indeed that your guard is a good teamplayer, but also knows how and when to create his own shot. But why do you play the open post offense that high? Sometimes the man with the ball is in the top corner of your offensive half court. The D doesn't press or trap you in the corners but a backdoorpass to under the basket would be impossible. Why don't you play it just above the 3pointline? |
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| Author: | Coach Sar [ 22 Oct 2010, 17:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
There are a few reasons for playing it that high..... it creates a lot of open areas which allows for takes to the basket..... 1 on 1 from the wing and at times from the top..... not sure how much of the game you watched but it does create back door opportunities.... and you did see some wide open 3 point shots in that game. We even had a set play out of that for backdoor cuts. We wanted to take the Defense away from the basket.... 4s and especially 5s DO NOT want to play D out there, it makes them very uncomfortable because they don't practice that..... they want to be closer and its easier for them to get rebounds ..... how many rebounds did you see that 7 footer get in that game? Doing that allowed us to control the tempo NOT the other team. That team was #8 in the state and we beat them pretty handily. Think of this... you over play us, we back door ..... if you are late with your helpside defense, we take it to the basket - if you get lazy on defense, we take it to the basket.... if you get real lazy and sag back, we take the three. We very seldom got caught in the low corners ... but if they tried trapping us high - I taught them to split the trap off the dribble, hit the man breaking middle and the back side wing would back door for a lay up. |
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| Author: | Coach Kris [ 23 Oct 2010, 01:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
I do agree it creates a lot of space and I indeed have seen a couple of backdoorscores. But I have also seen a lot of backdoorchances who weren't taken because the ball was too high to pass the ball to the cutter. I have to say, I do like the movement in your offense very much. The patience is great and no one is just standing, they all move and when they move, the do it with power. I did like that very much. What I'm playing with my team now, is all around the 3 pointline. Spread it with 2 in the corners, 1 man on top and 2 at the wings. The basic movement is just pass and cut and we all rotate. Because the low guys are in the corner, there is a lot of space inside and if the D is sagging in because it's a poor shooter on the outside, they cut themself from the corner inside and force the D to respond. I like your backscreen in the offense, I was planning on implementing that simple screen later in the season, I first want to let the guys completly get this system. I also like your D, you got a lot of stops, but with making very few fouls! And you got a lot of defensive rebounds. |
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| Author: | Coach Sar [ 23 Oct 2010, 07:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
There are times when the miss the cutter, not so sure it was because they were too high... I always felt like they just missed the guy or the defender impeded his sight. After all, we knew when and where guys were cutting. :-) There are some teams that run this a little lower and at times we did also... depending on the team we were playing... but for the most part... it was high. By the way, we talked a lot about reversing the ball 3 times in practice to break down the defense. (so who knows what the kid was thinking) We talked a lot about movement.. and that if you were standing still for longer than 2 seconds you were doing something wrong... even if its a cut and replace... force the defense to move/react. The backscreen is a great move, it forces the D to respond which allows easier passing on the perimeter.... if they dont give reverse help, back door lay up THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I agree with you, teach your kids the basic offense first.... make sure they know that well. I'm not sure how long your season is or where you are at in it right now....... think about this.... IF teams are pressuring you and making it difficult to enter the ball or get it moving, the back screen is a great weapon..... so don't be afraid to show them this IF that starts to happen. We played a 1-3-1 match up zone and m2m - on/up the line... and when we were doing it right it was hard to tell what we were in. We had a lot of pride in our Defense - our goal was to hold our opponentes below 45 points in a 32 minute game. I felt that we had a great chance of winning if we could do that. |
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| Author: | Coach Kris [ 23 Oct 2010, 16:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
Oke, that explains it for me indeed. The season just got started, we play one game per weekend, and have two practices per week. We started training in September, and just won our fifth game out of five of the season. Though we haven't play against the better teams in this poule. I'm convinced that we are playing in the wrong poule. The system here is in my favour. Because after the first halve of the season we will be rearranged in smaller poules, with more even opponents. The difference between teams in this poule is huge. For example we won today with 5-143 (in a 40 minute game). I used this game as a training instead of a game, because the opponent was just horrible. My goal is to learn and get the tactics right during the first halve of the season so we can play very good basketball in the second halve. Against the better teams. I have a very aggressive defensive team and 5 man on the bench, so I'm implementing a 1-3-1 trapping zone at the moment and we have got a very hard full court press (m2m). From that I play a fast break to wear the opponent out, which results in all five games in a better last quarter from us than the opponent. Again right now against the not that good teams everything works, I'm eager to see how we will do against better teams. My goal in my tactics is not to keep them below a certain score, but wear them down and keep momentum on our side. Keep speed in the game and play hard defense, from that build on a good steady fast break and have a offense that gives opportunities to all the players to score and is a continuation offense. The team is picking it up very good. Everyone is working for the team, no one wants te let the team down. From some players I'm expecting more, for example the player we discussed earlier, but everyone understands his role and doing a great job. I'm a bit worried about the scoring. We have 3 of the 10 players that score a lot of the games points. I'd like to spread that more to more teammates. But I think that will happen when the offense is working better than it does right now. Because it's a bit too basic, only the good players can get theyre shot off. |
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| Author: | Coach Sar [ 23 Oct 2010, 17:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
Patience is the key here, and as long as you are playing weaker teams... you wont have much of a challenge. This is the time to tell them what you want every time down the floor... we want X player to score, or score in the post etc. It sounds like you have a good team... just keep them improving. I would have loved to play you, my style of ball control vs your up tempo game. :-) Good luck |
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| Author: | Coach Kris [ 24 Oct 2010, 08:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: get the most out of my star player |
We are very strong this year. A lot better compared to the last years. I'm excited to see how we will do against better teams. The great part of this team is that we are in some sort of a flow. We are very focused and working as a team together to get the best out of everything. That's what I just love about this team. I think that is the basis to succes. I would have loved to play against your guys, I think we are less in fundamentals, because you are training much more, but the intensity and playstyle would have made it a interesting game. |
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