Open gym rules are different for each coach. The coach has a right to do what ever they think is right. A good coach will communicate their expectations ahead of time. But that doesn't always happen. Some coaches won't play kids that miss summer sessions or open gyms. Also, the coaches decision could be based other reasons.

Bottom line, this requires an open line discussion with the coach. Communication is the key. I think it's important for you to first seek to understand, then to be understood. (This is one of the 7 habits of highly successful people. http://www.stephencovey.com/7habits/7habits-habit5.php )

This is an important life lesson for your child and it just requires you and the coach to have a professional conversation. Nothing confrontational. Just understand each others situation and everything will be fine. Keep in mind, it's ok to set a good example for your daughter to learn how to handle this situation. But in the future, it might be in her best interests to learn how to do this on her own. It's an important life lesson that can be translated into business, relationships, school, and overall success.

I agree, Jeff. Each coach has his/her own set of rules regarding off-season open gyms. I, for instance, do not REQUIRE my players to be there but I strongly encourage them to attend open gym and conditioning if they are in town. Open gym becomes a time in which I can meet the younger players that are coming up in the program and develop relationships with them. And to second what Jeff mentioned, communication is definitely the key. Communicate your thoughts in a respectful manner and the coach should be able to do the same.

I think with the way today's game is progressing it is becoming harder and harder to have a successful high school open gym. Many players are playing on AAU or club teams and travel trying to get exposure. Some work out with personal trainers or skill trainers. The key is, are the players making themselves better during the off-season or are they just being lazy and not working hard. Myself, personally, as long as I can see noticeable improvement in a player's game then it is not a requirement for them to be at open gym. And if the student population or the number of players that try out for the team is small then a coach could be shooting himself in the foot by holding lack of attendance against players.

Hope that helps.

Wow. I'm not a real big fan of either open gym or AAU basketball. Like everyone else stated it depends on the guidelines the coach has established. This is the summer time and kids go on vacation, they work, they have other stuff that may interest them. I wouldn't hold non-attendance at open gyms against any player. They are like voluntary OTAs show up if you have the time and interest to come in and work. If not stay - away. But at some point their decision to stay away will come back to bite them either thru poor conditioning or the lack of skill development in the off season.

I agree with Jeremy, players are not "required" to attend but "encouraged" to attend open gym sessions. Lack of attendance will show up when the season (hence try-outs) begin and the ones in attendance pass up the ones who missed. It will all come out in the wash.

I believe as a coach grows older alot of his or her requirements will change. When I first started coaching I was a very demanding coach. Now after 44 years as a coach I have changed alot. Remember this players are just high school players ranging in age 14 - 18. Let them be a teenager, I encourage them to try to better their skills, but I do not demand that they attend every open gym, if they are playing AUU or if they are involved in other sports, good. If they are not involved, then they will be encouraged to come to the gym. You must form a positive relationship with your players.
Sometimes coaches ruin the GAME for the players by trying to controlling their life. Coaches sometimes are their own worst enemies. Try to remember they are high school players, not college or pro's.

I'm sure several coaches will question this attitude, but, we have won two state championships in the last three years.

What a student athlete does during the off season at the high school level should be their own business. it's illegal in California to dictate what a player does outside the usual basketball season.
Open gym is for players who want to work on their game. Tryouts are for players at beginning of the season for players who would like to play.
Having an AAU or Club team during school basketball season is unethical.

I am an assistant coach for an AAU program.

We do not run our AAU season during regular basketball season that the schools have from middle school to senior in high school. When we do start the AAU season some of the players are finishing up school ball, they are not allowed to start practicing or playing with their respective team within the AAU program until school requirements are met for the basketball season.

To state what has already been said though, communication is a key element in keeping players, coaches and parents happy. If everyone is on the same sheet of music there should be no major issues that arise.

An open gym should be just that, not a mandatory thing, if the players are learning in their AAU/YBOA programs or camps they attend then the coach should praise not punish the players drive and incentive to get better. A one or two day open gym session will not make or break a player, the lack of playing will though.

Ok, I understand where everyone is coming from. BUT, how are high school coaches supposed to develop a program if players can skip out during the offseason without consequences? The offseason IS the most important part of the season. This is the time of year where players have the opportunity to improve individually in a number of areas. Players can weight train, condition, and practice certain aspects of the game that aren't allotted much time during the regular season. I believe that coaches should communicate their expectations clearly to players and parents, but allow some flexibility during the summer because the kids have lives. BUT, as a coach, I have to stand by my beliefs and go with the kids who worked hard during the offseason, with some level of skill and ability. This shows character.

I have research and found that it was not two open gyms that she missed, but two mandatory practices in the month of May. My problem has been resolved by the by laws of the Ohio High School Athletic Association. A coach is not allowed contact with any player until June 1st thru July 31 and then only ten contacts. the coach was not allowed to have the mandatory practices until after the first of June. During June 1st through July 31 he is allowed ten contacts with his players. It is stated in the by laws of the OHSAA that open gym is not mandatory and if a player misses some of the schedule open gyms the coach can not hold it against the player when basketball season starts.

I find it quite distressing that this coach disregards the OHSAA by laws and creates his own rules in regards to basketball.

For CSquared - My neice played soccer for a major D1 program. When the summer time rolled around the coach gave them all workout manuals with drills and conditioning goals they were supposed to work towards during the summer. They could work out alone, at the school, with a teammate but they had to work. At the end of the summer there was a fitness test. Those that passed were fine, those that didn't work and try to attain the goals suffered through decreased playing time or remedial training. Same with the returning or new players in your program. At the end of the school year have an interest meeting for new and returning players and explain how it the conditioning program works. Those that participate will be ready when the season begins and those that don't put themselves in jeopardy.

I think it is important for coaches to communicate their expectations. Especially what they want the players to be ready for when the season begins. To take away family/friend time just so the coach can see the player isn''''t right. IF the player wants to do well, they know they need to put in the time to improve during the off season. If the coach has open gym to encourage those that need it. Great, but if the player comes in strong for try-outs, they shouldn''''t be docked for missing an open gym.

How many AAU coaches tell their kids about the NCAA rules about when college coaches can watch them play. Are they aware of the short time alloted by the NCAA in July. SO PARENTS SHARE YOUR STUDENT ATHLETE WITH YOUR HIGH SCHOOL COACH. APRIL, MAY AND JUNE GO TO OPEN GYMS AND OTHER TEAM FUNCTIONS.

I agree with Coach Edwards, being 56 and having been working with kids a long time. We forget that these are kids we are working with, not professionals. Burn out is real, kids need to be involved in other things also. It has been studied and 70% of kids drop out of sports by age 13. The number one reason they give is that it is not fun anymore. Being fun does not mean it has to be all giggles and laughs, but if it is not fun, why would they play? Being a teacher and coach, I have seen overcontrolling coaches and teachers. The kids get angry and fight back, either dropping out or doing the minimum. I have almost no rules in the classroom or in the gym and kids are knocking themselves out to get in. In the process I have won alot of games and improved alot of academic skills. Now, I have only worked at small schools, but I am guessing it is not that much different in the "big time". I think it really boils down to: Are the kids here for us or are we here for the kids? When we get that answer right we have no problem getting kids to do what needs to be done. They will "run through walls for us".

Open gym should be an opportunity for players to take advantage of playing/practicing basketball on a volunteer basis. Reprimanding a player for an out of season violation does not seem fair!!

i''''m a AAU coach as well and to some it up like chris sd if the aau coach and the coach for the school is on the same page everything will be okay. I also think what the high school coaches are getting at is these kids now days are not staying committed to one aau team they''''re flip flopping and some program do not workout and condition like other and they start to have a poor workout ethic. But we don''''t won''''t to burn out the kids we want it to be fun and also serious at the same time. If we were to say that they don''''t need aau we would be leing because we do need it and the reason alot of the kids playing AAU and SELECT ball is because some of the High School Coaches are not going the extra mile for their kids. That''''s why they strongly depend on there AAU Coach

Open gym means open gym at my school, the gym is open to anyone because of league rules.In the fall we have alot of basketball players in the gym. Our open gym is from 4:00 PM to 5:30 pm after the season many of our players work but we still have open gym from March to May. A coach can not give any instruction during open gym.We work with the players during our athletic period.

Bob Carroll

The coach has the right to do what is in the best interest of their program. Life is full of choices and the coach should go ahead with those who are the most committed to the program regardless of talent level. The worse message that can be sent is to put that player ahead of those who were there.

Why is the assistant coach not loyal to the head coach? Disagree in the locker room not in public.....Maybe the assistant has an agenda.

I am the coach of a boy's 14U YBOA team and I am also an assistant coach for a girls high school team. I do understand all points. You all must remember that 90% of AAU, YBOA, or USSSA sanctions occurr after high school basketball season. There may one or two Christmas tournaments. Open gym is not mandatory. I have a few players on my team that have made the choice to miss my one day a week practice to go to open gym at their high school. It is not acceptable and they pay dearly. One of my starters didn't start. He didn't miss the next practice. The ones that don't start feel that they aren't losing anything. Those players have seen decreased playing time. I have put a lot of time into developing these players and preparing them for high school ball. Believe me, their coaches will not be disappointed. However, the high school coaches should help teach them some responsibility. They should be committed to their AAU team until the season is over.

A long time ago in the Seattle Metro League, the state had strict limits on high-school workouts and there was no AAU to speak of, just the all-city summer league. We would drive or bicycle to the rec centers, community-college open gyms, or playgrounds, or the U of Wash and mix with the older guys. There we would see our opponents doing likewise, learn each others' tendencies, and hear about where to find more pickup games.
Detlef Schrempf matured from a scrawny kid to an NBA star this way by chasing the toughest pickup challenges in the city, all summer long, during four years at UW.
Players who like basketball will improve whether the coach tracks them or not.